Untitled Interview

Mar 3, 2026YouTube

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Elon Musk

Honest answer for AI and robotics is long term, working will be optional. Like long term, you know, which is ten years from now or less, work will be optional. So making vehicles autonomous is critical. Like, think it was like ten years ago, I said that, you know, in the future, any vehicle that is not electric and autonomous, like if you're riding a vehicle you have to drive yourself that is gasoline powered, it's gonna be like riding a horse and using a flip phone, which is to say that there's still some people somewhere that drive horses, but not zero horses. It's just un rare. What advice would I give young people for life? Well, I would say one thing is to be

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In this Supercut, we got Elon's most important highlights in one fast, uninterrupted presentation. Let's start with the progress recap.

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Elon Musk

Well, I think Tesla is one of the most exciting companies in the world. You know, it's, absolutely most exciting, you know, Tesla and SpaceX let me say are the two most exciting companies. So we're, you know, we're obviously expanding production. We're making more cars. We're gonna, you know, we're gonna roll out Tesla for self driving, is really an AI driven car. So it's Tesla AI software that that drives the car just by looking like a human does. So Tesla has the most advanced real world AI and, hopefully, it will be approved soon in Europe. We're told by the authorities that March 20, it'll be approved in The Netherlands was what I was told. Hopefully, that date remains the same. But I think people in Europe are gonna be pretty blown away by how good the Tesla, car AI is at in being able to drive. So and I think this year really, it will be the case that you from a from a technical standpoint, you'll be able to fall asleep in the Tesla and wake up at your destination. So that's that's very exciting. We've got the Optimus program, which is gonna be the the first humanoid robot. And I think you know some of the people say well what would that be useful like well who wouldn't want their own personal C3POR2D2 but even better you know and you can think of like all the reasons like you know, do you want someone do do you need a robot to, know, take care of your kids or walk the dog or, you know, take care of elderly parents or something like that. Then can do those things. So so that's very exciting. And, yeah, you know, we're we're gonna be starting production of the Tesla CyberCab here at Guey, Texas. We have started production, I should say, but we'll go to scale production in April. We'll we'll start pulling production in April and have significant production towards the end of the year. And, you know, if things go well, we would probably manufacture CyberCap in in Europe as well, and also manufacture Optimus in in Europe. So we've got the Tesla Semi coming out, so the Tesla heavy truck, and that that'll be going to Europe next year. Are so many things happening. It's a long list.

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It's a long list to make it an exciting company.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. Battery cell production.

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Yep.

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Elon Musk

We're gonna we're gonna start making battery cells at Giga Berlin. We're we have the Tesla Lithium Refinery that started up in Texas and the Tesla Nickel Cathode Refinery that's started up in, like, here in Austin. It's really, this year is a tremendous number of things. We've got five five factories starting volume production this year, five major production lines. We look forward to extending that to Europe as well.

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And I guess, look looking a little bit back, Tesla hasn't done anything less but really transforming a whole industry. I think without us taking that brave step or or Tesla taking that brave step to electrify mobility, the industry wouldn't be where it is today. What would you want people to say about Tesla, let's just say, in ten or twenty years from now?

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Elon Musk

In twenty in twenty years, I'd say Tesla's got factories on the moon, actually. Basically, I see see a very prosperous future for Tesla. It's difficult to predict anything in twenty years, but if you say like, I think five years to ten years, I could say Tesla has an extremely bright future. And and I I would say like, hold on to your Tesla stock, know, it's gonna be worth a lot, think, you know, that's my bet.

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Cool. Coming back to the present, if you look, I mean, you're always very well informed, if you look to the European industry, especially to the automotive sector or even the German industry and automotive sector, what do you think about it? What do you believe are the main reasons for their current state?

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Elon Musk

Well, I think there has not been enough innovation in automation. Automotive innovation has been relatively low. So the cars that are being produced are very much like the cars that were produced five years ago. There are not big differences. You know I have said for a long time really that the automotive industry, I have said this for twenty plus years, needs to go towards electrification. And this would be true even without environmental concerns. So it's just an electric vehicle is a fundamentally better architecture than a gasoline combustion vehicle. It is much simpler, it is more efficient, it's quieter, there's no pollution within cities. So really all ground transport should be electric. And I think all ships and eventually all planes should be electric. But the automotive industry has strongly resisted electrification. They have dragged their feet and they had to be pushed there by government and then whenever they have had any opportunity to reduce the production of electric vehicles they have done so. So this is just this is not a good strategic, it doesn't make sense. And also making vehicles autonomous is critical. Like I think it was like ten years ago, I said that in the future any vehicle that is not electric and autonomous, like if you are riding a vehicle you have to drive yourself that is gasoline powered, it is going to be like riding a horse and using a flip phone, Which is to say that there is still some people somewhere that ride horses, but not zero horses, it is just rare. Some people somewhere are still using flip phones, but there is not many, you know. It is going to be a niche thing. So the future does not contain combustion vehicles and there will be very few vehicles that are not autonomous. The future is autonomous electric

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vehicles. Sure.

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Elon Musk

And so if the automotive industry does not move in that direction, they will be left out. You can always learn something from some competitor, but strategically they are just headed in the direction of the dinosaurs. So they're not headed for a good place, you know, dinosaurs are not around anymore. So they really we we certainly are gonna we're going in a very different path. Like you said, electric autonomous is the obvious. To me it has been blindingly obvious for twenty years plus. So, but you know you can't, sometimes with, what I found with competitors is in the automotive industry, it is not that they're gonna steal our ideas, you know. You can't cram a good idea down their throat. Okay? No. Like if you say like, you must hate this good idea. It's like they're not gonna steal our ideas. They won't even we can't even force feed them our good ideas. That's that's been my experience. So we need to do what's logical, what's sensible, and and and and, you know, at Tesla, we're essentially creating the future, and it's a good future.

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We are building the future, they just build cars.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. It's a good future. It's a future with electric vehicles that don't emit poison gas, literally, they're quiet, efficient and and and and like I said autonomous the car instead of having to be stuck in traffic driving through you know busy roads and you know sometimes also people sometimes they you know they may fall asleep or they may have a medical emergency and then if you're driving yourself and you're on the Autobahn going super fast and you have like, you know, a seizure or heart attack or something, then you could die. But if the car is autonomous, it can take you to a hospital. In fact, this has actually happened many times with Tesla cars. Right.

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Really cool. So if we look at Giga Berlin specifically, about six years ago, nearly, we broke ground, four years ago we started production. I have a ton of memories, I know you have memories about What it as are the greatest memories? What do you tell people when they ask you about Giga Berlin and the people of Giga Berlin?

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Elon Musk

Well, first of all, would like to say thank you very much to everyone that has helped build Giga Berlin. Thank you Andre and thank you to the whole team. Because we have gotten an amazing factory built in a very short period of time and gotten to high volume production with good quality and good cost control. So I am very proud of Giga Berlin and all the people in it. Thank you. Yeah. It is just it is cool. I I like the art too, know, the the art and that people have some fun, you know. So, you know, like coming to work should be you look should look forward to it, you know. So you're you're coming to work with people that you enjoy working with, you're doing useful things, you're making things, you know. So I have a lot of respect for makers. Like you actually make something, you build something useful, build something useful that you know, that people enjoy, that like I'm a big fan of makers. And, you know, there's there's a lot of people who, I don't know, they're they're like, they don't make things. I don't know. They they just

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Hang around.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. They don't make things or they don't provide useful services. Whereas I like I think I'm I I have huge respect for people who make things and provide useful services. And it's an honest day's work, know, so Thank you. Yeah.

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I mean, I I don't know if you do have, but if you have a vision for GIGABELIN, what what would it be and what do you think would have to happen for it to become true?

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Elon Musk

Yeah. I think ideally we would significantly expand production at GigaVolon, so we would also do high volume production of battery cells, probably also the cathode, the anode, lithium, so that those become vertically integrated and produce things like the CyberCab or Optimus and other products that Tesla will develop. So I think exciting vision for the future of Giga Berlin is massively expanding it to do many more projects.

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Very cool. Do do you have any advice for the team at Gigabalin to basically, you know, work towards that vision?

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Elon Musk

Well, things certainly get harder if there are sort of outside organizations that are pushing Tesla in the wrong direction. If there are outside organizations that are pushing Tesla in the wrong direction, in giggle, then it's difficult to say that then we would expand if if we have to, you know, outside organization

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Yep.

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Elon Musk

That's making things very difficult. I mean, I'm just this is the truth. I mean, we're not gonna shut down the factory, but we're not gonna expand it either, realistically. Well, know, a favorite factory is like saying, what's your favorite child, you know?

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It's not a fair question.

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Elon Musk

It's a it's a question. I I'm, you know, the thing is that I I love factories, honestly. It's it's, you know, think a lot of people these days, you know, don't don't love factories or they're even even been to a factory, you know. But whereas I've walked the line in, you know, every factory and I'm a big fan of factories. I I love factories. It's

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This is a great place to be.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. It's you make things that have good utility, people like love the product. Making a product building a product people love is that's great.

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Makes you proud.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. So, Giga Berlin is is is an awesome factory. Yeah. So the vibe in there is is cool. Like, you walk walk around, you know, it's it's it's it's very clean. It's like it's quite beautiful inside and outside. It's like people seem seem quite happy and we're making cars and soon battery cells. Possibly many more things. Yeah.

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Many things to be proud of.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. Yeah. That's a great factory. It is. Yeah. Well, I I think there's a lot of exciting possibilities for what the next product is that will be built in Giga Berlin. We've started now spilling up production of the battery cell and we're going to be expanding production of Model Y especially once we as we get approval for supervised full self driving. Then from a product from the next major product standpoint, I think most likely is the Tesla CyberCab. But then there's also possibilities of Tesla Optimus and the Tesla Semi Heavy Truck. So Tesla has a lot of products coming out. So there's a lot of potential. I I think if things are looking good, I think we would expand Gigabolin to whatever the most that we could, you know.

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Gigantic manufacturing site? Yeah. We have a lot of space.

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Elon Musk

Well, that the authorities are supportive and the people are supportive, then we would expand to probably make it the biggest factory complex in Europe. So, I mean, the honest answer for AI and robotics is long term, working will be optional. Like long term, you know, which is ten years from now or less, work will be optional. Like if you wanna work, you can. Kind of like if you grow vegetables, can grow vegetables in your garden or you can get them from the store. It's optional to grow vegetables in your garden. Yeah. But some people still like to do it. You know, it's extra work to grow your own vegetables, but it's you know, people enjoy the process. That's gonna be how work is in the future. It'll be like, you can work if you want to. Well, I think for Optimus we we first have to succeed in making a useful robot. So the this is a hard thing to solve. Nobody has solved making a truly useful humanoid robot. And then you you have to make useful and you have to scale production and it's an entirely new supply chain. You know, the for Optimus, we've had to design the whole robot from physics first principles so that we, you know, we're designing the every motor, every gearbox or not a gearbox, every gear. Really, the the hands are extremely difficult to design, to have a properly dexterous robot hand is very very difficult. One of the hardest things to engineer. So it's we actually first need to have at least one that is useful. And then we can scale production. At first the tasks will be pretty simple, that Optimist is. And they will gradually get more sophisticated. I think eventually Optimus could do medical work, like it could be a doctor, be like surgery, and there is long term potential for everyone in the world to have access to incredible medical care, like better medical care than anyone receives today from humans. So I think long term luck optimists as surgeon would be incredibly good, competent and everyone in the world would get better medical care than anyone currently in the world gets. What advice would I give young people for life? Well, I would say one thing is to on the side of optimism, to be optimistic about the future. I think it's better to be, it's better to be on the side of being optimistic and wrong, than pessimistic and right. Your quality of life will be much better. So, so I would urge people to be excited about the future, I'm excited about the future, like I'm confident the future will not be boring, let me put it that way. It's gonna be very interesting and I think it's most likely to be great. You know, in terms of like general advice, I mean I guess, I advise people to like learn as much as possible, read a lot of books, try a lot of things and I guess, you know, I mean I guess enjoy life, just enjoy life but like working is also part of enjoying life, you know.

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Totally. So Find a job that you can actually enjoy.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. I think if if you will drive satisfaction from building things then like Tesla is an awesome place to be because we build things. We make useful products and that's I mean that's a great You know, I guess when my kids were born, that would be the most inspiring moment. You know, in terms of work stuff, I guess it's when we had the first production Roadster at Tesla. Mhmm. That was really you know, it was like hard to believe that we actually made a car that passed all of the regulatory requirements and you could actually go on the road with it legally.

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Yeah.

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Elon Musk

Because when we started out, we didn't even know how to make a car. And you know on the rocket side the first time getting to orbit was was a huge relief, reusing you know getting the rocket to come back and land was very cool, the self driving stuff I think is pretty amazing.

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Yeah it's amazing.

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Elon Musk

Yeah. I think the first time somebody experiences self driving where they're just sitting there and the car takes them all the way from their home to their work and parks. Yeah. It's mind blowing.

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It is. I'm I'm using it when I'm in The US all the time. Yeah. Is a lot better than people can actually imagine, I think.

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Elon Musk

It's like magic. It is. Yeah.

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Tesla is now testing real robo taxis on real streets with no safety driver. That means the car is driving itself, watching traffic, making turns, and stopping at red lights. Elon Musk first said robo taxis were coming back in 2019, but now they're actually here. Tesla started testing them in Austin back in June 2025. At first, they had a human in the passenger seat just in case. By mid December, a video went viral on x showing a model y rolling down the street with no people inside. Watch this. Musk replied, testing is underway with no occupants in the car. This isn't just one car. According to a tracker in Austin, there are now 31 robo taxis in the city, up from 29 last month. Musk says he wants 500 by the end of the year. Now, some people say this is dangerous. They say computers can't drive as good as humans. But even humans cause over thirty thousand car deaths in America every year. Computers don't do that. They don't get tired and they don't use a phone while driving. They see everything all at once. So, yeah, the computer might make mistakes, but it might actually be safer than us. So when does this go nationwide? Musk says 2026, maybe 2027. Other experts say it'll take longer. There are laws to change and tests to make. But despite everything, Robotaxi isn't science fiction anymore. It's real, it's here, and it's coming to your city soon. Now you know that self driving cars are a reality, there is something even more crazy. It's something nobody saw coming, but this invention is so powerful that it affects every kid on the planet. SpaceX, Musk's rocket company, is developing its third generation v three Starlink satellites. These new satellites will carry entire AI data centers on board. Think of it like floating computers orbiting Earth, running powerful AI systems far away from cities. Why would anyone do this? Because AI eats a ton of power. In 2023 alone, US data centers used about 4.4% of all electricity. And by 2028, that number could jump to 12. So instead of building more centers here, Musk wants to send them up into orbit. Listen to him closely.

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Elon Musk

It'll be a huge seller and and and also it it it cost less to manufacture. So that means the terminal cost, think might ultimately get down around a couple $100, which makes it accessible to many parts of the world where the more expensive terminal is unaffordable. So and this should be affordable for for for, you know, much of the world.

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Musk's team at SpaceX is already planning satellite launches with AI computing payloads inside. Up in orbit, cooling becomes effortless. The vacuum of space literally pulls heat away. That means instead of draining Earth's electricity, these AI systems could run above the planet fully self sustained. While SpaceX prepares to launch AI into space, Musk's other company, XAI, is building something massive right here on Earth. In Memphis, Tennessee, XAI is constructing the Colossus Supercluster. It started with 100,000 NVIDIA GPUs and is expanding to over 1,000,000. The plan is that Colossus will handle the heavy training of advanced AI models on Earth. Then eventually, those trained models could be deployed to satellite data centers in orbit. Some people are calling this the biggest shift in tech infrastructure since the birth of the Internet. AI may be heading into space, but Musk's next invention brings technology closer to home than ever before. Actually, it goes inside the human body. It's called blindsight, a chip designed to help blind people see again. It skips the eyes completely and connects directly to the brain. For this purpose, that tiny chip is placed in the part of the brain called the visual cortex, the area that controls how we see. Then, a camera captures what's in front of you and sends the image straight to the chip. From there, the chip sends signals to your brain, and your brain turns those signals into vision. In September 2024, the US Food and Drug Administration gave blindsight a special status called breakthrough device. That means the science is still early, but the government sees real potential enough to speed up the testing process. Have a look at this.

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Elon Musk

Our next product is is blind sight, which will enable those who have total loss of vision including if they've lost their eyes or the optic nerve or maybe have never seen or even blind from birth to be able to see again.

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At a town hall in Wisconsin, Musk said the first human test could happen by the 2025. He explained that even people who've lost both eyes or were born blind could someday see with this chip as long as the visual part of their brain is still working. At first, the vision won't be clear. Musk compared it to Atari graphics, simple and blocky. But over time, the goal is much bigger. He says the chip could one day offer superhuman vision. That means seeing in infrared or even detecting things like ultraviolet light or radar waves, things no human eye can do today. The device has already been tested in monkeys with promising results. And Musk hinted the first human implant might happen in The United Arab Emirates, where Neuralink is working with the Cleveland Clinic Abu Dhabi to perform the surgery. Still, many experts are cautious. Some say Musk's claims might be overhyped. One scientist compared the technology to a high-tech guide dog, not a replacement for natural sight. But even with the doubts, one thing is clear. If blind sight works, it could change how we think about blindness, the brain, and even human potential. And that makes it one of the most interesting and risky projects Musk has ever tried. Back on Earth, Elon Musk is now working on something that could reshape artificial intelligence forever, Grok five. According to Musk, Grok five has a ten percent chance of achieving human level intelligence, what scientists call AGI, or artificial general intelligence, that can learn, reason, and solve problems across any domain, just like a human. It wouldn't just answer questions or generate text, it could think. Listen to Elon said

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Elon Musk

superintelligence, it it is actually very difficult to predict what will happen next.

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Right now, Grok five is being trained on the Colossus Supercluster we talked about earlier. That's the same facility in Memphis that started with 100,000 NVIDIA GPUs and is expanding to over 1,000,000. The sheer scale of this operation is unlike anything we've seen before. But Grok five won't stay confined to a server. Musk envisions it as the brain across his entire ecosystem. That means Grok could power Tesla's self driving cars, help guide SpaceX missions, and eventually control the Optimus humanoid robot. Elon Musk is now teaming up with the country's president, Naeib Bukele, to bring his AI chatbot Grok to schools. Over the next two years, Grok will be added to 5,000 public schools, reaching over 1,000,000 students. Imagine asking your school AI, hey, explain fractions again or what's the capital of Peru, and it answers you like a teacher in real time. El Salvador's president, Naeib Bukele, said, El Salvador doesn't just wait for the future to happen, we build it. That deployment shows what Grok could do at scale. But if Grock five reaches AGI, that's a different game entirely. But there are some issues as well. Grock has said controversial things in the past, even repeating misinformation. So putting it into classrooms raises questions. Will it teach facts? Will it respect different views? And who gets to decide what it says? Still, this is a big moment for a small country like El Salvador to be the first to bring AI into every classroom, that's a huge leap. Elon Musk sees it as a global test. If it works, if it reaches AGI, it could become the most powerful AI on the planet. That's exactly why his next invention needs intelligence like Grok five to succeed because this one involves sending robots to another planet. Elon Musk has a goal to land the first unscrewed fleet of starships on Mars during the late twenty twenty six launch window. But landing on Mars and building a civilization, there is something completely different. Well, Musk has a plan for that too. He wants to use the Optimus humanoid robot to build infrastructure on Mars before any humans arrive. Think of it like this. A fleet of starships lands on the Martian surface. No astronauts step out. Instead, dozens of Optimus robots activate, exit the ships, and begin construction. They dig, they weld, they assemble habitats, they set up solar panels, life support systems, and landing pads for future missions. Watch this.

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Elon Musk

You said that everyone's gonna want one. So basically, who wouldn't want their own personal C3POR2D2?

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Musk's plan is that by the time humans land on Mars, the hard work will be already done. The base is built, the power is running. The robots have tested the systems, fixed the problems, and prepared everything. Musk has been vocal about this. He says Optimus will eventually cost less than a car and be capable of performing dangerous or repetitive tasks that humans shouldn't have to do. On Mars, that means everything. But there's another critical invention that makes this whole plan possible, in orbit refueling. You see, the Starship can't reach Mars on a single tank. It needs to refuel in space. So SpaceX is developing orbital refueling depots, essentially giant gas stations floating above Earth. A Starship launches, docks with the depot, fills up, and then continues to Mars. In orbit refueling has already been tested in simulations and SpaceX is preparing for real demonstrations. Without it, Mars missions simply can't happen at scale. So Optimus robots are building a Martian base while Starship depots enable the transportation system that gets them there. It's a two part invention working together. Some experts are skeptical. They say the technology isn't ready. They say Mars is too dangerous, too far, too unpredictable. And maybe they're right. But Musk has a track record of making the impossible real. Reusable rockets? Everyone said it couldn't be done. Electric cars at scale? Same thing. Now, he's attempting to build a robotic workforce on another planet. If this works, if Optimus can construct habitats and systems on Mars, it won't just change space exploration. It could change how we think about labor, automation, and human expansion beyond Earth. Now, I know some of you are excited to see these inventions come to reality. You want to experience the robot servants, the free rides and self driving cars, and much more. But some of you are also worried because these big inventions always create winners and losers. Some people will get rich from this, while others will lose their jobs. Similarly, some countries will leap ahead, while others will fall behind. So whether you love Musk or hate him, what matters is that the inventions are real, and you need to be ready to experience these. In the next video, we break down Grok five, what Musk claims it can do, and why he thinks it changes the timeline. Then go straight into the newest Joe Rogan interview where Elon talks about the bigger picture, what life looks like when AI runs everything behind the scenes.